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David Fleming: Hello, everyone. Welcome to Practitioner Spotlight. I’m going to be talking with one of our top level three mass practitioners today, Dillon Walker. Welcome, Dillon.
Dillon Walker: Thank you. Glad to be here.
David Fleming: What we do with these Practitioner Spotlights is basically feature our top-level mastermind practitioners; the guys who’ve been through the level one, the level two, homeostasis quite recently obviously in this case, and all of the mastermind modules. Just trying to get your perspective on how you use all this information, maybe how you advise other people thinking about getting into it, and just to get some background on what you’ve achieved with the information so far. Why don’t you just tell us a bit about yourself? We’ll go from there.
Dillon Walker: Dillon Walker, College Station, Texas. Just briefly, by day I’m actually a research assistant professor at Texas A&M where we do nutrition metabolism work. I’ve always wanted to get into an area, or a business in this case, where I can help others, especially those that are getting older. The old saying that, “We should slow down as we get older,” I really dislike that saying. I feel like it leads us into a path of decrepitude, essentially. I’ve wanted to look for certain approaches that would allow me to challenge that dogma. AMN has really propelled me in that direction, and being able to say, “No, you should be able to do that even though you’re 80 years old,” for example. In fact, I do have an 81 year old client. She’s a go-getter.
David Fleming: Amazing stuff.
Dillon Walker: Yes, it is.
David Fleming: You have your own company, I’m assuming, that you’re doing training with clients.
Dillon Walker: Yes.
David Fleming: Why don’t you tell us a bit about that?
Dillon Walker: Yeah. Biosystem Fitness is the name. I run this in the mornings and in the evenings. It evolved around fitness training. From there, I wanted to be able to … Obviously with fitness training, things happen. Injuries occur, pain happens. I wanted to be able to fix on the go, if you will, be able to subject them to challenging fitness training, but also manage problems that arise in a timely manner, because no one likes having to stop fitness training for two or three months to get over an injury and then have to work their way back to where they were.
David Fleming: Absolutely. Absolutely.
Dillon Walker: This, using AMN’s approaches, has allowed me to expedite any problems that arise. Biosystem Fitness is founded around the emphasis of trying to improve the quality of life of anybody of any age with fitness training, being able to recover from pain and injuries in a timely manner, but then also nutrition. Nutrition’s one of our bigger things, also, that we try to push. We’re not eating right. We’ve got problems. I’m trying to actually educate people on how to eat better. That essentially encompasses the business and what I’m trying to do.
David Fleming: That’s very cool. You’re, essentially, a research scientist by day; by midday, you’re helping people out in the practical sense, training them, improving their health, getting them out of pain, and giving them advice on, I guess, whatever comes up relative to their physiology based on the screening processes that we use. That’s awesome stuff. Now that I’m rapidly getting towards 40, I’m also interested in the anti-aging perspective there is on health. I’m sure we could probably have some lengthy discussions on that topic to do with mitochondria, and environment, and nutrition.
Dillon Walker: Yeah.
David Fleming: I guess we’ll maybe do that another time. That’s a fascinating background, first of all. With regard to these clients that you work with, is there any particular case studies, any particular people that stand out in your mind that you feel you’ve made some big change in and you want to talk about how you’ve done that?
Dillon Walker: Yeah, absolutely. I have several. Initially, it was just people that were coming, clients that were coming in for fitness training and then developing an issue. Now, I’ve started to get, which was what my hope was, is to get more people in, more clients in, that actually just have pain complaints or trying to get over an injury. I’m starting to get more of those. I have a young lady that’s come in. She came in with planter fasciitis, and had been to very many different therapists, and was unable to get any kind of resolve.
She had actually made progress, but it was still to the point where it was hard for her to run. She’s a runner. She wants to run. That’s all she told me is that, “I want to run. I want to run. I want this to be gone. I want to run.” Over the course of a few months, we were able to get it resolved. She’s back to running half marathons and more. She’s got more scheduled up. That was one of the first bigger cases. I know you and I communicated quite a bit. I was getting lots of input from you on that one.
David Fleming: Why don’t we go over some of those details? What were the sort of things you found were coming up and that you found to be effective in that particular case?
Dillon Walker: Two things that I found quite effective was the emotional motor system screen and then the neuromechanics. Those seemed to play a bigger role. Now, prior to that, I had done everything that I knew how to do in terms of reducing tension. Everything that you guys have taught us, I’d gotten done. This predates homeostasis.
David Fleming: Right. Right, okay.
Dillon Walker: I did all of that. Then, when EMS and neuromechanics came out (AMN Mastermind Modules), I went directly to that. Those made a huge impact. Now, in the past month or so, she’ll come back to me every once in a while and say, “I was a little achy this morning in that arch of the foot.” I would bring her in. It would actually be a limbic screen that would show up on that one after swiping the arch, going to a limbic screen and it clears.
David Fleming: Yeah, that’s a very common finding, I think, man.
Dillon Walker: Oh, man!
David Fleming: That’s something that’s underestimated a lot of the time by most practitioners or people. I think what I’ll do is just briefly bring anyone listening up to speed on what it is we’re talking about. Anyone who doesn’t know, the EMS screen is something based around the work of a guy called Gert Holstege, who is a neuroscientist I believe, who basically discovered what is called the emotional motor system. It’s something that basically modulates and governs the autonomic nervous system. I developed a way to screen that sucker and see how it was affecting, usually in a negative sense, whether it was recruiting appropriately the pelvic floor muscles or the pelvic organ stimulating sensors, and educating people on the connexion between the pelvic floor and the feet, and how to reflexively fire the muscles relative to the pelvic floor, the TVA, et cetera. That’s where the emotional motor system goes into. It’s not actually so much the limbic connexion, per se, is it? That’s not really the link.
The neuromechanic stuff is basically mobilisation of the neurotissue, so it’s a real structural apparatus of the nervous system. We look at how to mobilise nerves. I worked out that all of the peripheral nerves in the body are coupled, so you can do things cross limbs. It’s a lot to do with our gait patterns and everything. That’s what you found to be effective in that case with planter fasciitis. Then, you’ve mentioned that when she comes back, there’s a limbic issue if there’s tension in the feet. What that’s indicating is that she’s probably had a long-term injury, that she has a definitive emotional relationship with. Even if the injury goes away and then maybe the tension creeps back in, then she’s got a psychological emotional disturbance that she might not be able to run, or something, or whatever the context of it is. When you eradicate the charge of that, which is what we talk about doing, I’m assuming that the tension in the body also turns down a little bit in conjunction with other stretches and mobilizations.
Dillon Walker: Yep.
David Fleming: That’s pretty much it.
Dillon Walker: Yeah.
David Fleming: Amazing, amazing stuff.
Dillon Walker: It works. It’s doing well. She seems to be happy. She can run.
David Fleming: That’s amazing stuff, man. Is there anyone else you want to tell people about that you’ve worked with.
Dillon Walker: Yeah. There’s a few more. I’ve got a young lady that some time ago, I believe it was a couple years ago, her ankle collapsed on her and had to get her ankle fused. She has been dealing with chronic pain, extreme chronic pain. She has an ankle that just does not move, doesn’t pointer flex, doesn’t dorsiflex. It’s fixed. Since she’s been coming here, we’ve been able to reduce pain. This is actually after homeostasis came out, so just constantly every time she would come in, going in, going through each screen of the homeostasis.
Then also, one of the other things I thought was really beneficial is I got her on a grounding pad. Almost immediately, I’m like, “You need to get one of these. If you don’t like it, I’ll buy it back from you. Get on one of these grounding pads. Live on this thing,” that in addition to coming in. Now, she’s doing some fitness training. The pain is reduced down to the point where we’re learning how to move with a fixed ankle joint. One of her biggest problems is stairs, especially going down stairs. We’re learning how she can effectively go down stairs. She’s doing all this pain free, essentially pain free.
David Fleming: That’s amazing.
Dillon Walker: Then, another case, I’ve got a younger gentleman, actually close to my age, has cerebral palsy, extreme pain. He’s had some joints replaced. Extreme pain, almost to the point where he was looking at getting a wheelchair. The feedback that I’m getting from his mother the past couple of days is the past week he’s been a different person, meaning he’s able to get up and move around without pain. They’re on grounding pads. I got him on them immediately for sleeping. It’s wonderful news to me to hear that, that is actually helping improve his condition.
David Fleming: Absolutely. That’s a wonderful thing to experience as a practitioner. Amazing for the individual, but it’s one of the most rewarding things that you can experience in this kind of role, isn’t it, when you get those kind of changes in people. That’s incredible. With this guy, with the gentleman with cerebral palsy, you mentioned he’s sleeping better. Did you use any of the sleep protocols with him or anything like that? What sort of stuff have you done with him?
Dillon Walker: I went through the sleep protocol and his body clock was off. That was it. That’s all I found, in terms of the sleep protocol. The other things that I’ve done was the homunculus scan. That one was huge. That was huge.
David Fleming: Okay, so that’s the mastermind module one stuff, and locating specific areas of charge instead of gross screens. That showed up a lot with him.
Dillon Walker: Yes. Actually what I did, I didn’t go to that first, I just started going locally. For example, he’s had a hip replacement that actually was a faulty hip replacement. He had to have it redone. He’s got a lot of pain in that right hip. I went locally. I started locally, and it wasn’t really working. I’m like, “Wait a minute. I need to go scan the homunculus.” As soon as I did that, reduced the tension, went back to the hip, it worked.
David Fleming: Amazing.
Dillon Walker: Almost immediately, reduced pain. Now, he’s come back a few times after that. I’ve had to go back and just, the tension kind of creeps back. I reduce it. It’s actually starting to stick more and more now. That was the key with him, was the homunculus scan.
David Fleming: That’s very, very, very cool, man. Just to bring people up to speed with what we’re talking about, if anyone doesn’t know, in AMN we talk about scanning for tension. Essentially what we’re doing is we’re scanning for what we’re perceiving is increased electrical charge in the system. When, as a practitioner, assuming that your charge is lower than that of the client, when you touch the client, if there is an area of increased tension, there’s something called… Basically, charge will dissipate through the practitioner. The charge will drop towards the point of low potential. Essentially, there’s a charge transfer occurring between practitioner and client. We get an indication of that through muscle tests. We just use a muscle test as feedback, essentially.
Then, when you find all these combinations of increased tension or increased charge and we calibrate them, which is as easy to do as tapping and standing someone on an earthing pad, you can see changes in function. You can see dramatic changes in function. If anyone listening doesn’t know what we’re talking about, that’s essentially pretty much what we do. That is all correlated with training, complex movement, lifestyle recommendations, et cetera, things that you mentioned being involved in, and research, and everything through your nutrition. There’s some amazing cases. They’re very, very cool. How do you tend to approach nutrition with people, then? Have you tried using … For example, when I am working with clients, I’m very interested in the gastrointestinal system, as you might have gathered from homeostasis.
I find now that I’m able to screen people, and find where there’s asymmetry in their microbiome, and find where there’s asymmetry in their digestive processes, and recommend actually taking things away as opposed to putting things in a lot of the time as a baseline. We’re using fasting a lot. I’m using lifestyle recommendations. For example, we’ve mentioned earthing pads. That’s a whole topic. We could talk about that all day. I have lifestyle recommendations where I get the people to, sometime between 8:00 and 11:00 in the morning, to be outside, shoes off, and feet in contact with the ground, ideally facing towards the sun so that they’re getting the appropriate photon emission, the radiation from the sun. They’re getting the contact with the ground, their negative free source of electrons from the ground.
I combine that with saying, “Well, from the assessments it would appear that you have, maybe, high histamine levels. I would avoid mackerels, sardines, tuna. I’d avoid these kind of foods. It would appear that the IC valve is maybe not functioning appropriately. This is the valve between the large intestine and the small intestine. With that in mind, it might be worthwhile you trying some fasting in amongst all this other stuff that we’ve talked about.” I find that we get some pretty good resolution from that, because we have the combination of showing the system where it has increased charge. The nervous system’s kind of kicked into gear to take a look at it, I think. Then, we make the recommendations around lifestyle. When those things go together, I’m finding that we get some pretty good change. How do you approach the nutritional side of things with your clients?
Dillon Walker: Even before I start screening for whatever issues they may have, I actually start off … I’m a firm believer in low carb. In fact, I feel like that has a significant influence on the gut microflora in and of itself. My comments on nutrition are only recommendations to clients. I can’t make them eat a certain way. I try to educate them on the fact that carbohydrate consumption can have a significant impact on all systems in the body, including the gut. Even when I’m screening clients for whatever issues, actually GI does not come up very much. I can only think of a handful of times I’ve had it come up on clients. It is my belief, based on the research that I’ve looked at, that actually carbohydrate consumption will improve the microbiome with those that do have issues already.
For example, I have a client that has completely removed large bowel. I recommended that a probiotic might be a good bit to go with, even though nothing has really shown up. She’s complained about GI distress for a long time. She’s been on kind of a typical American diet, lots of everything kind of stuff. I’ve recommended low carb and then a probiotic. Those are the go-to suggestions that I make, because in my experience, that clears up a lot of things, especially when it relates to a chronic condition or inflammatory condition. Those are the recommendations I make. Then, if I do find something in a screen, GI screen, then I make further recommendations based on what you’ve taught us. Again, really in my experience, that doesn’t come up that much, the GI screen.
David Fleming: Interesting.
Dillon Walker: I mean hardly at all.
David Fleming: Do you find there’s many immune findings with people that you’ve been working with?
Dillon Walker: There’s a few more immune findings, but 98% of the time, and I truly mean 98% of the time, it’s limbic.
David Fleming: Okay, interesting.
Dillon Walker: Just straight limbic. I’ll go through all screens all the time and nothing shows up. It’s just limbic.
David Fleming: That’s interesting.
Dillon Walker: Occasionally, I will say other than limbic, I will have osmolarity show up next. That’s another thing I tend to find is that dehydration, not extreme dehydration but moderate dehydration, and then lack of sodium as the two big ones. I’ve actually helped a couple of clients with headaches. They have chronic headaches, and just ensuring that they’re consuming plenty of water and plenty of sodium, that tends to resolve the headache issues.
David Fleming: That’s interesting. Again, just to bring people up to speed if they don’t know, we’re talking about the limbic screen as part of level three, this homeostasis course. It’s the very first screen that we recommend you do for that very reason, that it’s so influential over every other system in the body. We’re talking about scanning for tension or for charge relative to memories about emotion or emotional memories. That can be things that are relative to certain conflicts in somebody’s life, be it completely subconscious to them or they have their acute awareness on it. There tends to be, if there is emotional distress in the system, then the physiological body is directly affected. It can be affected in very direct patterns, as some of the reference material that we provide in the course kind of indicates. Limbic stuff, hugely, hugely impactful. Interestingly, I’m not the biggest fan of doing the limbic screen. Maybe that has something to do with the fact I don’t find as much in it.
Dillon Walker: Yep.
David Fleming: I know there’s a few of you guys out there who really enjoy scanning the limbic stuff. Not enjoy it, I don’t know if that’s the right word, but you definitely dive into it yourself, and Scott Robinson and Gareth Riddy as well are very keen on checking out the limbic factors. It’s been great talking to you, man. How would people get in touch with you if they wanted to book a session with you, or if they wanted to come and talk to you about training or treatment?
Dillon Walker: Go to my website, www.biosystemfitness.com, or my Facebook page. They can email me. All my contact information’s on my website and on my Facebook page.
David Fleming: Fantastic.
Dillon Walker: Absolutely.
David Fleming: Well, it’s been an absolute pleasure speaking with you today. I think you’re going to get a lot of interest for people in your area coming to see you to come and get some of this strange AMN tapping and complex movement stuff to help them out.
Dillon Walker: Yep. They call it voodoo on my end.
David Fleming: I’ve been termed a voodoo witch doctor for many years. I’ve gotten over it now! Dillon, thanks so much for your time.
Dillon Walker: Yep, no problem.
David Fleming: I’m looking forward to seeing you when you come to London.
Dillon Walker: Absolutely.
David Fleming: We shall speak soon.